Bodum Santos 3000 12-Cups Coffee Maker
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- Max. Power: 1200 Watts
- Operation: Electric
- Type: Coffee Maker
- Built-in Grinder: Without Built-in Grinder
- Capacity: 12 Cups
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Good Coffee and easy to use
Pros
Fast, easy to use, fast, flavorfull, conversation piece, fast
Cons
Care needed in cleaning, plastic not glass, price
Recommended it?
Yes
The Bottom Line:
Coffee lovers, it's a must; fast, easy, and attractive.
Not sure about the difficulty everyone has with cleaning this unit. It may not be dishwasher safe but it's pretty easy to clean. The top bowl is easy to clean, just pop out the filter screen and rinse or wash by hand. In my opinion it's easier to clean than the filter basket in a normal drip maker with all it's ridges at the bottom; the dishwasher never gets all the build up off. Besides, how many people actually clean the basket every time????
It's quick and easy to make multiple pots of coffee. I awlays found getting a basket out of a norma auto-drip a pain but with this unit you just pop off the top, rinse and fill. Not difficult.
Having gone from an auto-drip to a coffee press to the Bodum I know that there are differences of many types. I love the coffee made in my press, but it's time consuming. The Bodum makes just as good coffee in less time. You have to experiment to get what YOU consider the perfect brew. I remember making coffee ina percolator, and coffee in one of those new fangled auto-drip makes just tasted horrible, but I learned that I had to relearn to make coffee to get a decent cup. The secret, to me anyway, is the AMOUNT of coffee. I learned that in a press I use more grounds than in a auto-drip, and the same holds true for the Bodum. In my autodrip I made 12 cups with about 4 scoops of groundws (8 tblsp) but in the press I made 4 cups of coffee with 2 scoops minimum, and the same seems to hold ture for the Bodum. I've been told that the rule is 2 Tbsp of coffee for each cup, which in an auto-drip would make mud, but in a press or Bodum makes very good coffee. So, you actually use more coffe to get a decent cup.
If you are not a coffee lover then don't get this unit. If you are a coffee afficianado then you are beyond me and don't need my advise. If instant is just fine with you stick to your old maker, but if you like coffee and want a good FAST brew then try this unit if the price seems worth it. For me, the taste and convienence are worth the money of the unit, I can set it up and the night before with water and coffee grounds, stuble to the kitchen, and by the time I finish yawning and stretching my brew is ready. ( please don't get onto me about exposing the grinds to air all night long - my tastebuds aren't up to being too discriminating that early in the a.m. - I do grind my own etc. for my evening after dinner coffee).
I've been asked to update this review. The following was added per request:
I'm probably not the best person to comment on the differeneces but I've hear some things and some things seem obvious.
I'm made to understand that brewing time is one factor. A drip maker takes a long time to brew, the water drips on the grounds and runs through them over and over. To me it's like using a teabag over and over; eventually it's just weak. You can see this if you watch your coffee brewing; the first minute it's very dark,but by the end the coffee dripping down is lighter than weak tea. Seems to be all the good stuff was in the first 1/2 of the pot and the rest is just diluting it.
With the Bodum (and a coffee press) the grounds float suspended in the water, evenly saturated by the water brewing nice and strong and since it only brews for 3-4 minutes the flavor seems like it would be even, full and consistent instead of starting strong and ending weak. There is a teabag company that hypes it's "flow through bag" for better brewing. Well, with the grounds floating unfettered in the water, it seems this method is the ultimate flow through.
I've also been told that water temerature is a key factor. Since the water is introduced to the grounds at the moment when the water is boiling hot it makes a better brew; in the Bodum it's the action of the water that creates the vacum wich causes the water to move to the top bowl - no boil no movement. In an auto-drip who knows how hot it gets. A new unit probably starts hot, but it could drop a few degrees or more over time and it certainly does as it travels from the heating element to grounds and from what I've heard even that few degrees can make the difference. I've had my auto-drip's "hot" brewing water splash on my hand and while it was hot it didn't feel like boiling water hot; more like tap water hot.
As I said, I'm not an expert, and I'm just guessing here; I'm sure there are many more knowledgable people who can provide expert reasons why it's better (or supposed to be). I can only comment from experience. A year ago I bought a coffee press and the coffee was wonderful when brewed in it. Friends would comment and ask what brand of coffee I was using because it was so good. I had to admit that it was probably the cheapest brand in the supermarket (about $1.80 a pound pre-ground) but that the brewing method was the secret. (and for those astute people, yes, by the time I pour the water from the kettle to the press it probably dropped a degree or two but I know it was hotter than that coming from the auto-drip)
To sum it up, the Bodum makes good coffee, some may even say great. If you think your auto-drip tastes just as good as you get in commercial establishments don't get rid of your $25 unit, you probably won't notice the difference. But, if you have ever had a "good" cup of coffee somewhere this unit might be what you are looking for; it's certainly easier and more convienent that a press.
Note: Opt for the 12 cup unit if you want more than 2 mugs of coffee at a time, the "cup" mentioned on the box seems to be a 5oz cup, so the 5 cup mini will make about 2 mugs of coffee.
Also, after reading the instruction booklet be aware that the "filter" is nylon and it's recommended that it is replaced every few months. If you order your unit online check to see if the online store has the replacement filters also; you might save a few dollars shipping.
Good Luck
Danneauxs
P.S. Just a reminder, you MUST experiment with the amount of coffee to find the "perfect" brew for YOU. Also, different brands or even different roasts from the same brand will probably produce different results so be aware that say 3 scoops of a "breakfast" blend will probably produce different results than 3 scoops of a "dark-roast" blen.
It's quick and easy to make multiple pots of coffee. I awlays found getting a basket out of a norma auto-drip a pain but with this unit you just pop off the top, rinse and fill. Not difficult.
Having gone from an auto-drip to a coffee press to the Bodum I know that there are differences of many types. I love the coffee made in my press, but it's time consuming. The Bodum makes just as good coffee in less time. You have to experiment to get what YOU consider the perfect brew. I remember making coffee ina percolator, and coffee in one of those new fangled auto-drip makes just tasted horrible, but I learned that I had to relearn to make coffee to get a decent cup. The secret, to me anyway, is the AMOUNT of coffee. I learned that in a press I use more grounds than in a auto-drip, and the same holds true for the Bodum. In my autodrip I made 12 cups with about 4 scoops of groundws (8 tblsp) but in the press I made 4 cups of coffee with 2 scoops minimum, and the same seems to hold ture for the Bodum. I've been told that the rule is 2 Tbsp of coffee for each cup, which in an auto-drip would make mud, but in a press or Bodum makes very good coffee. So, you actually use more coffe to get a decent cup.
If you are not a coffee lover then don't get this unit. If you are a coffee afficianado then you are beyond me and don't need my advise. If instant is just fine with you stick to your old maker, but if you like coffee and want a good FAST brew then try this unit if the price seems worth it. For me, the taste and convienence are worth the money of the unit, I can set it up and the night before with water and coffee grounds, stuble to the kitchen, and by the time I finish yawning and stretching my brew is ready. ( please don't get onto me about exposing the grinds to air all night long - my tastebuds aren't up to being too discriminating that early in the a.m. - I do grind my own etc. for my evening after dinner coffee).
I've been asked to update this review. The following was added per request:
I'm probably not the best person to comment on the differeneces but I've hear some things and some things seem obvious.
I'm made to understand that brewing time is one factor. A drip maker takes a long time to brew, the water drips on the grounds and runs through them over and over. To me it's like using a teabag over and over; eventually it's just weak. You can see this if you watch your coffee brewing; the first minute it's very dark,but by the end the coffee dripping down is lighter than weak tea. Seems to be all the good stuff was in the first 1/2 of the pot and the rest is just diluting it.
With the Bodum (and a coffee press) the grounds float suspended in the water, evenly saturated by the water brewing nice and strong and since it only brews for 3-4 minutes the flavor seems like it would be even, full and consistent instead of starting strong and ending weak. There is a teabag company that hypes it's "flow through bag" for better brewing. Well, with the grounds floating unfettered in the water, it seems this method is the ultimate flow through.
I've also been told that water temerature is a key factor. Since the water is introduced to the grounds at the moment when the water is boiling hot it makes a better brew; in the Bodum it's the action of the water that creates the vacum wich causes the water to move to the top bowl - no boil no movement. In an auto-drip who knows how hot it gets. A new unit probably starts hot, but it could drop a few degrees or more over time and it certainly does as it travels from the heating element to grounds and from what I've heard even that few degrees can make the difference. I've had my auto-drip's "hot" brewing water splash on my hand and while it was hot it didn't feel like boiling water hot; more like tap water hot.
As I said, I'm not an expert, and I'm just guessing here; I'm sure there are many more knowledgable people who can provide expert reasons why it's better (or supposed to be). I can only comment from experience. A year ago I bought a coffee press and the coffee was wonderful when brewed in it. Friends would comment and ask what brand of coffee I was using because it was so good. I had to admit that it was probably the cheapest brand in the supermarket (about $1.80 a pound pre-ground) but that the brewing method was the secret. (and for those astute people, yes, by the time I pour the water from the kettle to the press it probably dropped a degree or two but I know it was hotter than that coming from the auto-drip)
To sum it up, the Bodum makes good coffee, some may even say great. If you think your auto-drip tastes just as good as you get in commercial establishments don't get rid of your $25 unit, you probably won't notice the difference. But, if you have ever had a "good" cup of coffee somewhere this unit might be what you are looking for; it's certainly easier and more convienent that a press.
Note: Opt for the 12 cup unit if you want more than 2 mugs of coffee at a time, the "cup" mentioned on the box seems to be a 5oz cup, so the 5 cup mini will make about 2 mugs of coffee.
Also, after reading the instruction booklet be aware that the "filter" is nylon and it's recommended that it is replaced every few months. If you order your unit online check to see if the online store has the replacement filters also; you might save a few dollars shipping.
Good Luck
Danneauxs
P.S. Just a reminder, you MUST experiment with the amount of coffee to find the "perfect" brew for YOU. Also, different brands or even different roasts from the same brand will probably produce different results so be aware that say 3 scoops of a "breakfast" blend will probably produce different results than 3 scoops of a "dark-roast" blen.
